Half-Blood Prince (spoiler warning!!)

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:58 pm

My opinion on the whole matter, started when Dd and Snape where having the little convo in the forest. I thing Dd told Snape that he would have to kill him, and thats when Snape expressed that he wanted to get out. Dumbledore knew about the Unbreakable vow, because Snape told him about it (Probably in the forest.) Dumbledore concluded that to keep Snape at Voldemorts side without ruining his position, He would have to Kill Dd. So after Dumbledore drank the poison he knew he was going to die (note: Dd was never afraid of dying) Thats why he told Harry to go get Snape, Not for an antidote, but to allow Snape to keep his Vow. Anyway the way things turned out, There was no other way for things to progress unless Snape Killed him. Dd was stalling Malfoy, so that Snape could do the dirty deed, therefore keeping Malfoy pure, and safely away from Voldemorts clutches. Now the Order still has a valuable spy, (More valuable now than ever) and Harry knows how to kill Voldemort. Conclusion: Dd's plan took a positive turn when he died. Just think about it.
Dd would never plead for his life, He was pleading for snape to kill him. He could've easily prevented his death by not freezing Harry, harry could have taken on Draco, and given Dd time to grab his wand and take on the other death eaters. But in doing this, Snape would die (by breaking the unbreakable vow) and the Order would suffer the loss of a vluable spy, and Malfoy would probably be killed by Voldemort for not completeing the task. So dumbledore did the ultimate Good by sacrificing himself, so that it could lead to the eventual downfall of the Dark Lord.

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:59 pm

Also don't forget about Dumbledore Pensieve, and Portrait. These will probably be used to convince the Order and or Harry the Snape is still a good guy. Among other things.

Conor · Post by **Conor** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:56 am

my brothers freind ran into a barnes and noble store and screamed a spoiler to the new harry potter book and ran out. i dont know what spoiler it was though

xmassmurdere · Post by **xmassmurdere** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:56 am

why is book called the half blood prince?
any clues as to wether harry is going to die anytime soon?...just wondering

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:20 pm

xmassmurdere wrote:why is book called the half blood prince?
any clues as to wether harry is going to die anytime soon?...just wondering

I take it you haven't read it either. Well Harry uses an old potions book, with alot of extra notes and stuff on how to improve the potions already in the book, and alot of new made-up spells and stuff, this book helps him pass potions with flying colors, and helps him learn new hex's and jinx's that where made up by the person who previously owned the book. . . . The Half-Blood Prince.

samurai_cable · Post by **samurai_cable** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:29 am

Yeah... Snape could still be a good guy. It's either Harry or Voldemort. Fair enough. Wow... all that to save Draco. Thanks for all these eye-opening comments

About Harry's green eyes, my sister read from other sources that it links to wandless magic. House-elves have green eyes or something, and as you all know, they can do magic without wands. So there might be some connection between Lily's family and elves (This I am very not sure about, since Lily is muggle-born, maybe it's to do with James... I dunno). Harry, before he went to Hogwarts, was able to make his hair grow, make glass disappear, break the glass in Marge's hand... and so on. But can other wizards and witches do that too? I know Tom Riddle could, from the sixth book. Was there any other part in the books that mentions wandless magic?

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:46 pm

Hmmm. .. very interesting. I always just assumed that the wand was an instrument that focused magic. there are certain spelled that could be performed w/o one, but I think a wand is crucial to all witches and wizards, which I think is why the ministry snaps the wand of a wizard that gets expelled, to prevent them from doing magic? Could they still practice potions??? Hmmm. . . .House Elves? Very Curious.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:55 pm

Something just came to mind! Hogwarts is going to need a new Defence against the dark arts teacher (again) AND. . . A new Transfiguration teacher who, in turn would become head of gryffindor house. Who could they be? I think Minerva McGonnegal as headmistress would try to keep Member of the Order at the school. So could Tonks possibly be the new transfiguration teacher? She would make so much sense. Maybe Lupin will come back as DADA teacher too? All this is assuming Hogwarts will still be open. What do you guys think?

lammy · Post by **lammy** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:57 am

What do I think-I think I have to watch all the movies again to know what you are asking there-

I am really bad with names-

I just hope that Harry Potter doesn't turn evil-

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:56 pm

Well I don't know how much the movies would help you, There are only three of them out sofar. There are six books out. but you can try.

samurai_cable · Post by **samurai_cable** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:24 pm

hehe yeah, I can't wait to see the fourth movie; it's looking pretty good so far, from the trailer (but Harry's hair is... ekk oh well). I've been worrying about this movie because the book is so long! It's LOTS to cover. But I've read a few reviews (those lucky people who got to go to a private screening) and they've been pretty good so far

Not many liked the third movie, because people who haven't read the books just don't get what's going on exactly. Questions left unanswered, why does Lupin know how to use the map, as well as Sirius...

Hmm... I'm not sure if they would open the school with all the commotion and most parents would want their children home, especially after what happened in the end of the sixth book. I don't know, but it definitely makes sense that Tonks takes up Transfiguration while Lupin teaches DADA again (They make such a cute couple!!). Perhaps some families would choose to stay at Hogwarts for protection... or something...

Does anyone know where Godric's Hollow is? That's where Harry's going next... And I do wonder what Ravenclaw's treasure is... it's a Hocrux right? The ring, the diary, the necklace, Hufflepuff's cup, the locket in the cave...... Am I missing something?

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:19 pm

Well I think I've already listed what I think are the horcruxes. And item of ravenclaws was just an idea, a possibility, not a fact. I'm not sure where godrics hollow is and we can't really figure it out just from what we've read so far, there are speculations though, I'll have to do some research.

Conor · Post by **Conor** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:14 am

hey does anyone have sex in the book?????

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:32 pm

I would be glad to debunk that rumor, I don't know who started it. . . but they are wrong, There is no sex in any of the books, it's not even mentioned. The word J.K.R. used for "kissing" was "Snogging" and taken out of context that could sound much like. . . well you know. But No there is no Sex in the books Thank God!

Jimenem · Post by **Jimenem** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:06 pm

I may have an I dea of where Godrics Hollow is (sort of). I don't really know Englands geography, But we know that Hagrid flew over Bristol on his way to Surrey from Godric's Hollow, And he was probably well into his trip by the time he reached Britol, because thats when he said Harry fell asleep "Little tyke fell asleep as we where flying over Bristol." So I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that Godrics hollow is in Wales somewhere.